I went back to the MJHD.COM archives via MJHD.NET to verify one of the pictures but the image was not there; nor are most of the images which were on the MJHD.COM Wordpress forum. I have no reason to doubt the person who sent the pictures and have no reason to doubt their validity.
Any way the first picture was posted by Andromeda on a thread where everyone posted pictures of themselves on MJHD.COM.
Picture posted by Andromeda on MJHD.COMThe second picture was posted by the admin of MJHD.NET LaraLovesMichael.
Picture posted by LaraLovesMichael on MJHD.NETAnyone noticing a person that is the same in both photos? What the fuck is going on with the hoax forums?
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Links, please.
There are no actual working links as the "show your face" topics were deleted by Auntie Amy when she shut MJHD.COM down.
The person who emailed the pictures was a member of MJHD.COM and is a member of MJHD.NET.
Yep. Same person.
Not sure. Andromeda has posted her pic more than once, one of which is her profile pic on Twitter, and she doesn't look like a teenager. She has dark hair, and looks to be in her 30s. Not sure if your source got it right.
Why would someone save those pictures?
Andromeda was in a greece talk show talking about the hoax. Here's the link to that post: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=5541
The user deleted the vid from yt.
Andro is way older than Lara, I remember a pic of her on the old mjhd.
I also remember "Andromahi" as a name -- could be wrong.
I don't get your point? I see lara in both pics.
I'm pretty sure I know which fruitcake sent you that photo, because I vaguely remember her talking about it once, perhaps at your forum. The same fruitcake who accused me of being in cahoots with Souza and Mo as a team in Dallas, TX (I couldn't make this stupid shit up if I tried). No matter how many people told her how incredibly retarded this theory was, and no matter how much proof was shoved at her, she vehemently insisted on the validity.
Anyway, I think Lara has made some seriously poor decisions, the biggest one obviously involving the unfortunate mistreatment of SeeingClues. However, I do not think she is a suspicious person, or a person of ill intent as is being subtly insinuated here. She appears to be kind, and sincere, and genuine. You even yourself wrote a blog post about this very topic.
Just my two cents.
andromeda was in a greek talkshow.. we could all see her and it was not Lara.
It was Lara who posted that picture not Andromeda.. why don`t you ask Lara or Andromeda on Twitter??
The picture above with two younger females was posted by the current admin of mjhd.net on the old mjhd.com. I know this, since I was there when she posted them. She also posted that picture on her old twitter-account. Andromeda has other pictures of herself, and there was a video on youtube not too long ago of her, she was on Greek TV speaking about Michael's hoax. And let me tell you, that was NOT the person on these pictures. It was a woman in her 30s with long brown hair and heavy make-up. Totally different look. So no, I'm not buying this. It's pretty ridiculous if you think about it. Think logically. If someone has something to hide, why post different pictures of themselves?
You don't want anyone to know who YOU are, so you are not posting pictures of yourself. Your just hiding behind a name. Easy as that. The person who e-mailed you this "information" could very well be someone who simply doesn't like the forum and just took pictures from the admins twitteraccount and said it was Andromeda. Again, I'm not buying this. It's just information you got from a total stranger in an e-mail? I mean, come one. LOL!
Dear Dog: Do you remember when Andromeda appeared on a Greek tv show about the hoax? I can't find it now. Anyhow she looks nothing like either person in that photo.
its all lies or hasnt anyone worked this out yet? It was right from the start..think about it.
by the way Andromeda is in Greece and so called Lara is in Spain...go FIGURE ..and no,its not a trick by Michael Jackson or anyone else its a trick by some manipulative human beings who have enjoyed having their egos fed while they stand by and deceive the decent members who genuinely think they support a hoax site.
Lowlifes the both of them.Many people have said time and time again that Lara is not who she said,you end up thrown off a forum or blasted when some user that is usually Lara or Andromeda comes on under one of their fake IDs and then attempts to gently manipulate you all into thinking(carefully) that you mustnt suggest that as Lara may be a front for ..oh no (MJ who is secretly syping on his fans too see how all 200 of you cope with a hoax idea) so in case she is connected to Michael we had all better be quiet about the fact that she is lying through her GREEK fucking ass! SAY HELLO TO AMY WHEN YOU EMAIL HER NEXT LARA AND ANDROMEDA...I have a long memory girls:)
after all how quickly and without warning was I removed from your forum as soon as you knew who I was and who I may know:)
You all have my best wishes,you are going to need it when the pretend forum you are all on crashes and is revealed as nothing.its all a scam like MJHD was..sad and just low grow the fuck up
PS Laras twitter was deleted at the same time she realised she was caught out..check the dates
Interesting. Why can't the people behind MJHD whether it be .com or .net just be honest about who they are? Why all the deceiving? I understand people are entitled to their privacy and I don't expect social security numbers or their addresses, but a LITTLE bit of honesty would be nice.
They made a big deal about Seeing Clues, yet they continue to deceive their members with shit like this. Who is going to protect the members from them? I wouldn't doubt that the two big hoax sites are working together and getting big laughs over how foolish they make all their members look.
So, Lara and Andromeda are friends then.
I don't remember the first picture at the moment but I do remember the second picture.
What does 'Lara' say about these pictures?
huh uh? That's not true , I remember Andromeda on the original MJHD , and she posted a picture where she was brunette
That's pure BS , sorry
i've been a member of MJHD since mid-august. i remember the first picture that's posted. i've always known that picture as one of lara, cause i thought she was really pretty. thats what ive always known lara to look like. i have read on here a couple of times someone saying that Andromeda used the same pic as her avatar that lara uses. i do remember that Andromeda did use a pic of a blonde girl, both in her avatar and her sig, but it wasnt lara. at least thats what i remember.
and if you notice, the "read only" forum posts end on Aug. 4. it says there are only 2217 members and the top poster only had just over 1000 posts. there was a lot more members than that at the time it went down in november. so, this info that we have access to is the info that was posted before the first crash, right?? not the info from before the shut down in november?? thats how im reading things. i became a member right after it came back on in august. i dont know if there was a "show your face" thread before the first crash. i do know there was one that was started in the second forum where amy was still the admin. that may be why a "show your face" thread cant be found in this forum.
Anonymous said: "It was Lara who posted that picture not Andromeda.. why don`t you ask Lara or Andromeda on Twitter??"
I did make an attempt to contact both Andromeda and Lara. But it seems admins of hoax forums don't like dogs - well at least not ones called _MJHDC_ on Twitter.
Memories, memories, memories. Guess saving things isn't a bad idea after all. Thanks for posting these Conspiracy. I know I'm not lying.
@_MJHDC_ 8:14am: "I did make an attempt to contact both Andromeda and Lara. But it seems admins of hoax forums don't like dogs - well at least not ones called _MJHDC_ on Twitter."
*ahem*?
"I'm pretty sure I know which fruitcake sent you that photo, because I vaguely remember her talking about it once, perhaps at your forum. The same fruitcake who accused me of being in cahoots with Souza and Mo as a team in Dallas, TX (I couldn't make this stupid shit up if I tried). No matter how many people told her how incredibly retarded this theory was, and no matter how much proof was shoved at her, she vehemently insisted on the validity."
Thanks a lot my dear. Once again you are spreading lies here and accusing innocent people without proofs. That's beautiful you, isn't it? I can't change the fact that the IP addresses of yours and Dutches go to the same city in the US. Yes, you can be using a proxy server, but isn't it pretty much a good coincidence that the Dutches, who do not know you and live other side of the world happend to have a proxy server in the very same city as you?
And I haven't sent any photo to the dog. I don't have any photo like I wrote here in the other thread. And I don't even remember that first photo to be posted in the old MJHD, so I can't give any comments on that. Sad, isn't it?
Yep, that's the fruitcake, at 9:29am. See what I mean? I actually live in Dallas, TX and live with Souza and Mo. I just ~pretend~ to live in Baton Rouge, LA, and Souza and Mo just ~pretend~ to live in the Netherlands. And we ~pretend~ to not know each other other than in passing.
Freaking fruitcake.
Lara and Andromeda are good friends.
Lara used to be a moderator on Andromeda's forum before starting MJHD.net
I would like to see that Greek TV show interview.
Anybody got a link or something?
Lara was the one who initially started the "Show your face" thread on the old forum.
She originally posted those pics above.
It's her and her sister in that photo, I think.
Who knows if it that picture was sent to Conspiracy in the first place.
Could have just made that one up, like other things Conspiracy claims to be true but has no proof. Yet it's all supposed to be "funny". Yeah... ha.. ha.. zzzzzzzzz...........
Anonymous said: "Who knows if it that picture was sent to Conspiracy in the first place. Could have just made that one up, like other things Conspiracy claims to be true but has no proof. Yet it's all supposed to be "funny". Yeah... ha.. ha.. zzzzzzzzz..........."
Why would I say the picture was sent if it wasn't? And if you ever learn to fucking read I said "I have no reason to doubt the person who sent the pictures and have no reason to doubt their validity." - which after you get your retarded fucking ass reading means that I trust the person.
If I was going to make something up it would of been satire. Two photos do not make a satirical post.
When you learn to read you can look up the word 'satire' and then realize than your mother should of done herself a favor and kept the afterbirth instead.
Iloveyoumore, explain then why do yours, the Dutches' and the dog's IP go to Dallas, Texas? Just a coincidence? And you still claim that you do not have any kind of connection, but it just happened that you all decided to get a proxy server in Dallas? The world is really a small place, isn't it?
How funny you really are, Conspiracy...
As funny as a struma perhaps.. lmao!
How angry you get over nothing.. lol!
What a tard.... Really... LMAO!!
Sounds like cold turkey to me. LMAO!
Makes you wonder what kinda drugs the dog might be on. ROFL! What are they? LOL!
Finnlady77 said: " Iloveyoumore, explain then why do yours, the Dutches' and the dog's IP go to Dallas, Texas? Just a coincidence? And you still claim that you do not have any kind of connection, but it just happened that you all decided to get a proxy server in Dallas? The world is really a small place, isn't it?"
LMFAO. If that is what you want to think keep on thinking it.
Doggy, you say you do not have a server in Dallas? Hmm.. Everyone can check that, who has got an email from you.
Jesus Christ, Finnlady, now MJHDC is included in the this secret club of co-workers? I'm trying not to laugh, but it's very difficult...
You already started a thread about this on MJHD.net a few months ago, and ~multiple~ people gave you your answers on why you were seeing Dallas, TX when you traced the IP's of myself and Souza & Mo from our emails. Something to do with routing from a web-based email server. It over my head so I have no idea how to explain it to you myself, but others certainly have - repeatedly. I just looked my IP up for you and here it is: 70.180.37.135.
I have posted my first and last name, phone number, and physical address on my ~private~ forum, MJAlive (back in November, I think) to avoid this kind of crap that the other forum admins seem to face. Simply because I have nothing to hide. It's still there, too, stickied at the top for quick reference to whom it may concern.
MJHDC is my friend, although I have no idea what he looks like or where he lives or what his real name is. And I only assume he is a he. He might be a she for all I know. Although gee, I hope not. That woyld be one rough chick. LOL. Souza and Mo I only know from the old MJHD, classic version 1.0 and we have rarely communicated with each other, maybe two or three times have we exchanged any words at all. I fully believe that they do live in the Netherlands, and again, people have already thoroughly verified to you that their IP address is from there, and something about it routing through Dallas when you go to trace it, because of the web-based email they use.
I don't know what else to tell you. I can't believe I am even discussing this with you, but I do feel bad for you because you must spend a great deal of time agonizing over these ridiculous things. Plus, before you through a temper tantrum and stormed off from MJAlive because you found out that V was a moderator at the time and you didn't like her, you seemed reasonably sane. Your posts were great! I don't remember you ever getting so nutty, paranoid sounding like you have displayed to the world over the past few months. It truly worries me, because I cared about you and I truly enjoyed your company and I don't know what's wrong with you or how I can help you.
I'm not going to address this again, because it is madness.
Finnlady77 said: "Doggy, you say you do not have a server in Dallas? Hmm.. Everyone can check that, who has got an email from you."
Just to answer this I use a web-based email account, Google's Gmail, I did some checking on this and it doesn't even record my IP in an email, just the email server. But explaining anything is pointless.
Actually do a WHOIS on this Dallas IP address and post the result here. Prove how dumb you fucking really are. Post the IP address too.
If you really want to think I am in Dallas. Go ahead. I'm living on the Ewing Ranch. Me, Bobby, Pam and JR are sipping brandies as I type.
MJHDC wrote: "If you really want to think I am in Dallas. Go ahead. I'm living on the Ewing Ranch. Me, Bobby, Pam and JR are sipping brandies as I type." LMFAO!! Thank you for that, TB!! You just made my night!! Now I'm going to have the Dallas theme song stuck in my head :P
If you are using the Gmail, your ISP should be Google Inc. and your host name should end with google. But first of all you are not even using a gmail address where I got an email from you. People can check that by themselves.
And it's funny how Iloveyoumore is usually the first to comment here doggy's posts. Isn't it funny? Just a coincidence again.
Iloveyoumore, don't be worried my love. It just takes a couple of minutes to check IP address. But you are right, it would be stupid to spend too much time on you both. It is not worth of it.
Well, with GMail, you can't trace the IP address back as far as I know and that's why MJ was using Gmail.
Finnlady77 said: "If you are using the Gmail, your ISP should be Google Inc. and your host name should end with google. But first of all you are not even using a gmail address where I got an email from you. People can check that by themselves."
LMFAO at the stupidity. So the millions of people who have Gmail email accounts should have Google as an ISP? Too fucking funny.
You never posted the WHOIS or the IP address so just keep blowing smoke out of your fat ass.
I want to answer why some people may want to stay private.
People may fear backlash and mocking from family, co-workers, and friends if they find out they believe in the hoax. My family, colleagues and friends in real life do not know about my beliefs so my privacy is very important. Remember most people think MJ is dead and to be a hoaxer, you are automatically labeled as a nut.
Also, if you read anything on netiquette, they advise you to lie about who you are. It's a safety issue; you have no clue about the motives of some people when you cannot see them. Also, after witnessing all this internet-bullying in what was supposed to be a hoax investigation, I can see why keeping your identity under wraps is a good idea.
Dear doggy, I won't post anyone's IP address on the internet. If you have sent an email to someone, all of them can check your IP.
It's funny how rude you both became, when I question your location. Yes, you can keep your identity secret, and it's understandable. But what I don't understand is your attitude. You behave like badly raised kids, swearing and spreading lies about people, who do not always kiss your ass.
But in the end, yes, as you said, it's too fucking funny.
@Finnlady77 :
Iloveyoumore comments first on MJHDC's posts because she's in love with him, just like she's crushing majorly on SeeingClues. She wants him, and I quote, to "investigate her body."
Finnlady77 said: "Dear doggy, I won't post anyone's IP address on the internet. If you have sent an email to someone, all of them can check your IP."
Allegedly it is my IP address; and I have no problem with you posting it for the world to see.
So is it you won't or can't? You sit and say I am the MJHDC, ILoveYouMore, Souza, and Mo and you have this magical proof that all 4 are in Dallas. Post the IP. Let everyone see.
Or did you do the WHOIS on the IP address as suggested and found out your wrong?
Seems as it is my IP address, and I'm all 4 people, the only person to object would be me and I have no objection.
Yeah, Iloveyoumore was also the 1st one to follow Conspiracy on Twitter. You know...
Anonymous said: "Yeah, Iloveyoumore was also the 1st one to follow Conspiracy on Twitter. You know..."
LOL. Well there is all the evidence needed. The LAPD is looking for some smart people like you to join them. Failing that Burger King are always looking for someone to fry the fries.
Anonymous 3:36 AM: Yes, I've noticed that, too.. :)
Doggy, I won't post your IP here, because it's not a nice thing to do, you know.. Someone could do something not that nice with your IP address. Everyone can check am I lying or not. The reason why I decided to mention about my suspisions on your connection with your love (Iloveyoumore) and Dutches, was that I won't take all the shit you throw on my face. Why should I, little doggy?
iloveyoumore posts first on a lot of these sites/accounts because she is running a hoax forum herself and likes to keep things up to date. Why is that so weird? Finnlady, you are wrong about this. I don't know what else to tell you. If all four of these people are turning up with the same IP for you, either you then there are probably millions of other people with this IP, too. It doesn't mean they are from Dallas...
Why don't you do what MJHDC asked you to do and run the WHOIS?
Anyway, as far as the pictures go, both of those pics look incredibly familiar but I don't remember Andromeda's pic. I do remember Lara though for some reason. Maybe they're sisters? But it sounds like the others here think you might be mistaken. I've been pissed off at MJHD since the first time they shut down and lost all of our posts, so I haven't been back much since.
Finnlady77 said: "Doggy, I won't post your IP here, because it's not a nice thing to do, you know.. Someone could do something not that nice with your IP address."
Well I'm not that worried because I know you are wrong. But as you insist it is my IP address and I am 4 people; I have no issue with you posting my IP address.
Seems you have my consent, the only reason for not posting my IP address is that you are wrong. You can come on here and accuse all you like, but in the end it is put up or shut the fuck up.
What a great laugh, Conspiracy!
As for Henda, well the flower shop in Newcastle, sorry,won't order.... as we have lots of flowers on the Meditteranean Riviera already, not to count the flowers for Grasses Perfumes. Mmmmmmmm.... Bal à Versailles at Fragonard's or elsewhere.
@MJHDConspiracy: It's interesting. WHY ANDROMEDA would post a picture of Lara and her sis? Hmmmm ......
that is strange! i remember seeing a picture of andromeda, i believe she was greek, and thats definitely not her. i also remember when lara posted the first picture of her and her sister. after that she said something like 'my sister thinks she's ugly so i had to take that down' and then she posted the solo picture of herself. i know this adds nothing to the topic but it was fun to read! go doggie go
@ Angie: the server for both phpBB and wordpress is in Dallas, TX,nd therefor every blog, site or email affiliated with phpBB/wordpress will give you that location, as I tried to explain to you a gazillion times you stupid cunt. If you refuse to believe that, suit yourself, put on your tinfoil hat and don't forget your baseball bat to defend yourself against all the people conspiring against you! Whatever you do... don't fall asleep mwuahaha
Anonymous 3:45 PM, for example, the email address of Iloveyoumore was a hotmail address, not any email address affiliated to her forum. And behind the dog's forum and blog is the same IP address, but I guess the provider of the blog and forum are different?
Finnlady77 said: "Anonymous 3:45 PM, for example, the email address of Iloveyoumore was a hotmail address, not any email address affiliated to her forum. And behind the dog's forum and blog is the same IP address, but I guess the provider of the blog and forum are different?"
For fucks sake, either shit or get off the pot. Post the IP address so everyone can check it.
http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com IP address:
209.85.135.191 ... Check it out here: http://www.selfseo.com/find_ip_address_of_a_website.php
Which is in Mountain View, California which is where Google HQ is ... http://www.google.com/corporate/culture.html
So Finnlady77 there is some proof of the blog IP address which I even gave links so everyone can check too. Now just post the alleged IP address of my blog which you got and let everyone check that too.
Every time you are asked to post the IP you never do. You say it is for privacy, but as it is allegedly my IP I don't give a fuck; just post it.
The IP address of your emails has been 74.63.202.14. You are welcome little doggy.
But as I've said many times to you, my point is not that are you using a proxy server or is your IP address your forum's or blog's provider's IP, but that all of you (Dutches, you, Iloveyoumore) have IP address in Dallas. What a coincidence. Do you understand what I mean? I cannot bark, but I can ask my rottie to tell you that if you could understand better, little doggie.
The IP address of your emails has been 74.63.202.14. You are welcome little doggy.
But as I've said many times to you, my point is not that are you using a proxy server or is your IP address your forum's or blog's provider's IP, but that all of you (Dutches, you, Iloveyoumore) have IP address in Dallas. What a coincidence. Do you understand what I mean? I cannot bark, but I can ask my rottie to tell you that if you could understand better, little doggie.
@Finnlady You are looking at the wrong IPs, back on the forum the real IP from iloveyoumore was posted, and it was not from Dallas, you chose to ignore it though. It wouldn't fit with your paranoid theories. Btw, emails sent via Gmail are untraceable, it's a fact. Just google it, or yahoo it or whatever. I dont want ya thinking I'm working for Google who works for Tha Illuminate (!!!), or anything.
But, hey, why would you listen to me, I am also an insider and we are all chilling in Dallas, together with MJ...fishing!!
ridiculous, everyone here knows damn right that I'm merely a Serbian stinkwhore.
@Finnlady77 and the IP address 74.63.202.14 goes to:
o1.email.forumnotification.com which is used by LEFORA.COM which is what the ArmyOfLaugh Forum (the one affiliated with this blog) is hosted by (http://armyoflaugh.lefora.com).
Take a look at their website: http://www.forumnotifier.com/ which is what forumnotification runs from.
It is used by Wordpress, phpBB, and almost every forum and CMS going.
All you had to do was post the IP address and it could have been cleared up days ago.
Check the facts. This is real proof; but you will not accept it even though it is there for even the blind to see but like d.o. said "you chose to ignore it though. It wouldn't fit with your paranoid theories."
d.o: I know Gmail does not show the IP address of the email sender, and the email from doggie wasn't from Gmail address by the way.
Doggie: So, you say that the providers of the forums/blogs of all of you are using different servers in Dallas? The servers are different for all of you. All of your forums/blogs are based in Dallas or using a proxy server in Dallas? The web pages were pretty simple, so I couldn't find answers from there.. ;)
Have a nice time in Dallas with MJ. But, please, leave fishes alone.
@Finnlady http://aruljohn.com/track.pl here is the website where you can verify all the info Conspiracy has posted. Just paste the IP address under "Enter IP Address to Trace "
@Finnlady: We always put them back in the water, you know Mike, the moment you even imply you are going to harm a fish he becomes hysterical. Sheesh, sometimes annoys the hell outta me.
@MJHD Conspiracy Please get more of that green tea me and iloveyoumore like. I hope you haven't forgotten that tomorrow is your grocery day.
d.o: That's good. But, please, be careful not hurting fishes' mouths.
MJHD Conspiracy said... "If you really want to think I am in Dallas. Go ahead. I'm living on the Ewing Ranch. Me, Bobby, Pam and JR are sipping brandies as I type."
psst, Dog...JR's dead, remember? lol.
@anon 10:39
I'm pretty sure JR hoaxed his death, but that's all I can say about the matter for the time being.
According to www.ultimatedallas.com JR never died. And at age 78 Larry Hagman is still alive. Maybe JR can make a comeback for some reunion special episode still ... LOL
wow...
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